amitjoey
05-23 11:55 AM
Guys,
E-mails are good, but if you can fax them too:
Fax numbers to key senators in DC offices:
Clinton: 202-228-2082
Schumer: 202-228-3027
Lott: 202-224-2262
Reid: 202-224-7327
Cornyn: 202-228-2856
Hagel: 202-224-5213
Martinez: 202-228-5171
McConnell: 202-224-2499
Kennedy: 202-224-2417
This is awesome, glus. Thanks again for putting these fax numbers together.
E-mails are good, but if you can fax them too:
Fax numbers to key senators in DC offices:
Clinton: 202-228-2082
Schumer: 202-228-3027
Lott: 202-224-2262
Reid: 202-224-7327
Cornyn: 202-228-2856
Hagel: 202-224-5213
Martinez: 202-228-5171
McConnell: 202-224-2499
Kennedy: 202-224-2417
This is awesome, glus. Thanks again for putting these fax numbers together.
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PDOCT05
10-05 09:35 AM
Friends...looks like TSC is doing July 2nd filed cases..lot of july 2nd filers got receipts...let's hope for our turn in the next week. Please update if any of july 3rd applicant get's RN?
kshitijnt
04-24 12:46 AM
Yeah no problem. We all have egos. Dont apologize, instead spend money on court and attorneys.
I had an RFE from NSC that they wanted to see experience letter from employer from specific format. They specifically said in RFE that they didnt want to see affidavits or paystubs or offer letter or any other document. Remember EB2 category criterion is "5 years of progressive work experience" word progressive is important and offer letter doesnt prove it.
If you havent been in this situation, do not offer unnecessary advise based on your gut feeling.
I had an RFE from NSC that they wanted to see experience letter from employer from specific format. They specifically said in RFE that they didnt want to see affidavits or paystubs or offer letter or any other document. Remember EB2 category criterion is "5 years of progressive work experience" word progressive is important and offer letter doesnt prove it.
If you havent been in this situation, do not offer unnecessary advise based on your gut feeling.
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Jyotsna
09-10 07:10 PM
I don't usually comment on such posts and I have seen a lot of people take the side I am about to take. I just think you are being unnecessarily rude. It is these people and their opinions that cause IV to exist as a group. Lets say you are going to lock membership only to people paying a membership fee every month. How big a group are you going to get?
If it is going to be significant, then maybe that's the way IV should go and should just shut down public forums where there are members who can talk and members who have "not bought their right to talk"
I bring up the "monthly membership" issue because I did make donations on multiple occasions (you should probably look up your records and verify). And yet, under the new design, I am not a donor, I do not get access to the exclusive threads that only the privileged monthly members do. So, just like the OP, I am a thankless member who thinks the group is thankless. So, I do not know what initiatives IV has taken, but yet, I linger around the forums because it has so many smart people throwing around ideas, working on theories and just being friendly.
Maybe you should just create a little forum of yours in one corner and put walls around so no one can come in and make suggestions about things you won't tell them about. Does it take that much effort to be nice to someone? Just remember that he is free to tell you what to do irrespective of who he is. What you actually do is upto you. Just be nice for a change, it will make you get a whole new perspective on life!
I totally agree with your Deepak. People have to understand that everyone in this forum is going through the same situation but in a different way. And sharing views participating should be open to all. If one can contribute in any way should be appreciated or else Like you said there should be a wall.
If it is going to be significant, then maybe that's the way IV should go and should just shut down public forums where there are members who can talk and members who have "not bought their right to talk"
I bring up the "monthly membership" issue because I did make donations on multiple occasions (you should probably look up your records and verify). And yet, under the new design, I am not a donor, I do not get access to the exclusive threads that only the privileged monthly members do. So, just like the OP, I am a thankless member who thinks the group is thankless. So, I do not know what initiatives IV has taken, but yet, I linger around the forums because it has so many smart people throwing around ideas, working on theories and just being friendly.
Maybe you should just create a little forum of yours in one corner and put walls around so no one can come in and make suggestions about things you won't tell them about. Does it take that much effort to be nice to someone? Just remember that he is free to tell you what to do irrespective of who he is. What you actually do is upto you. Just be nice for a change, it will make you get a whole new perspective on life!
I totally agree with your Deepak. People have to understand that everyone in this forum is going through the same situation but in a different way. And sharing views participating should be open to all. If one can contribute in any way should be appreciated or else Like you said there should be a wall.
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07-06 11:16 PM
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vinabath
03-26 11:37 AM
Labor Substition was a devil which has created most of this problem as I can see there are hardly 15-20% original beneficiaries for these 2002-2003 Labors.
Employers made Labor Sub a Devil by misusing it. It has been provided to employers as a valid advantage from employer perspective.
Infact GC has become a retention perk for the employer and from the employer perspective all they need is unlimited H-1B permits. All this added to the fuel that GC has become a perk to the employee because they suck up 6 years of H-1B servitude and not a Employer benefit anymore.
I think the Govt and USCIS start to think now that
H-1B is employer benefit
GC is employee benefit
and they are slowly moving to make changes in the current law.
Employers made Labor Sub a Devil by misusing it. It has been provided to employers as a valid advantage from employer perspective.
Infact GC has become a retention perk for the employer and from the employer perspective all they need is unlimited H-1B permits. All this added to the fuel that GC has become a perk to the employee because they suck up 6 years of H-1B servitude and not a Employer benefit anymore.
I think the Govt and USCIS start to think now that
H-1B is employer benefit
GC is employee benefit
and they are slowly moving to make changes in the current law.
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simple1
05-01 01:32 AM
thanks akred for refering INA. I went through it now
In I485 application "Part 2: App Type" Option b (derivative status for spouses and children)
is actually related to quota listed in INA Sec. 203. [8 U.S.C. 1153] a - 2. (family quota)
and not to INA Sec. 203. [8 U.S.C. 1153] b - * (employment quota).
IV Core. Can something be done to highlight this issue in your conversation with authorities ?
In I485 application "Part 2: App Type" Option b (derivative status for spouses and children)
is actually related to quota listed in INA Sec. 203. [8 U.S.C. 1153] a - 2. (family quota)
and not to INA Sec. 203. [8 U.S.C. 1153] b - * (employment quota).
IV Core. Can something be done to highlight this issue in your conversation with authorities ?
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sankap
07-10 09:52 PM
@Ramba:
Nice assumptions...but we need evidence. Do any USCIS documents say they would need proof of a *running* income? (After all, you don't have paystubs for a future job in same/similar occupation.) Since GC is for *future* job, why can't self-employment in same/similar occupation, under AC21 and with *projected* revenues, be enough? Do they ask for paystubs and proof of long-term commitments/contracts in EVL-RFE?
Re wages, here's Yates memo verbiage:
Question 5. Should service centers or district officers use a difference in the wage offered on the approved labor certification and initial I-140, and the new employment as basis for denial in adjustment portability cases?
Answer: No. As noted above the relevant inquiry is if the new position is the same or similar occupational classification to the alien’s I-140 employment. A difference in the wage offered on the approved labor certification, initial I-140 and the new employment cannot be used as a basis of a denial. However, a substantial discrepancy between the previous and the new wage may be taken into consideration as a factor in determining if the new employment is “same or similar.”
Pls note that with current recession/depression, the "prevailing wages" for same/similar occupations have gone down--drastically in some cases (esp. IT). Also, you could open/register your LLC (by spending $400) for your self-employment to sound more "legitimate"--but that's certainly not a requirement.
USCIS may not buy if no income shown thro the bussiness. One may have a simple bussiness model. However, they should be in a position to show documentary evidence that they are making similar money as per 140, and importantly they are doing same kind of work when self employed, and they have a long term commitment/contract for their bussiness. Then only they may belief that you are doing legitimate bussiness thro self employment. Just writing EVL in a letter head will not serve the purpose.
Nice assumptions...but we need evidence. Do any USCIS documents say they would need proof of a *running* income? (After all, you don't have paystubs for a future job in same/similar occupation.) Since GC is for *future* job, why can't self-employment in same/similar occupation, under AC21 and with *projected* revenues, be enough? Do they ask for paystubs and proof of long-term commitments/contracts in EVL-RFE?
Re wages, here's Yates memo verbiage:
Question 5. Should service centers or district officers use a difference in the wage offered on the approved labor certification and initial I-140, and the new employment as basis for denial in adjustment portability cases?
Answer: No. As noted above the relevant inquiry is if the new position is the same or similar occupational classification to the alien’s I-140 employment. A difference in the wage offered on the approved labor certification, initial I-140 and the new employment cannot be used as a basis of a denial. However, a substantial discrepancy between the previous and the new wage may be taken into consideration as a factor in determining if the new employment is “same or similar.”
Pls note that with current recession/depression, the "prevailing wages" for same/similar occupations have gone down--drastically in some cases (esp. IT). Also, you could open/register your LLC (by spending $400) for your self-employment to sound more "legitimate"--but that's certainly not a requirement.
USCIS may not buy if no income shown thro the bussiness. One may have a simple bussiness model. However, they should be in a position to show documentary evidence that they are making similar money as per 140, and importantly they are doing same kind of work when self employed, and they have a long term commitment/contract for their bussiness. Then only they may belief that you are doing legitimate bussiness thro self employment. Just writing EVL in a letter head will not serve the purpose.
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gc_kaavaali
02-01 08:00 AM
All the best in your life. You did it man. Lot of people like to go back but only few actually go back to india.
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mariner5555
05-01 02:07 PM
lots of labors were sold..god knows how many are in queue by substitution
I think lot of labor subs guys have already got their GC ..there maybe sizeable number though remaining. in the example that I gave ..these guys didnt even get a decent job ..so they didnt even come to the GC scene.
also lot of people were having multiple H-1's ..so I am trying to be optimist in suggesting that the real demand may not be that much ..also, because of repeated complaints ..I would think that USCIS will try to push as many EB3- I cases as possible ..so they can show that dates are not severly retrogressed. these are all optimistic thinking points ..as one of my telugu friends told me ..even paan wallah's were coming from hyderabad ...and I guess for their own good 90% of them went back to get oppurtunities in India. many of them were already working in govt positions ..and I guess H1 hiring was almost at a standstill during the last downturn.
I think lot of labor subs guys have already got their GC ..there maybe sizeable number though remaining. in the example that I gave ..these guys didnt even get a decent job ..so they didnt even come to the GC scene.
also lot of people were having multiple H-1's ..so I am trying to be optimist in suggesting that the real demand may not be that much ..also, because of repeated complaints ..I would think that USCIS will try to push as many EB3- I cases as possible ..so they can show that dates are not severly retrogressed. these are all optimistic thinking points ..as one of my telugu friends told me ..even paan wallah's were coming from hyderabad ...and I guess for their own good 90% of them went back to get oppurtunities in India. many of them were already working in govt positions ..and I guess H1 hiring was almost at a standstill during the last downturn.
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laborchic
07-11 10:11 AM
Viceroy Lord Wavell and his assistants laughed when M.K. Gandhi told them that one day they will be forced to leave India. What they did not understood that they were not politicians, they were bureaucrats. When the political power behind peaceful civil disobedience was unleashed, a nation took shape, and what Gandhi told Wavell became a reality.
Something similar repeated in United States recently when thousands of legal immigrants were given a cold shoulder, despite of their merit based claim for an American Green Card. They decided to apply Gandhian way of peaceful protest by sending thousands of flower bouquets to USCIS, an American agency responsible for immigration and citizenship. Instead of offering an apology, USCIS chief decided to again ignore the immigrants and simply issued a statement that the flowers will be forwarded to the injured service members recuperating at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Once again a bureaucrat miscalculated the power hidden behind a peaceful protest. Now the power behind flowers is becoming a media mainstream story. NY Times, Washington Post, Reuters, Yahoo News are a few to name. Bollywood, has recently issued a statement providing its full support to Immigration Voice, the non profit organization behind the flower campaign.
An American way of fighting injustice "A law suit" is on its way, the usual rallies and demonstrations are about to begin. However, in America, its first time after Martin Luther King Jr., that someone has tried to apply Gandhi's way to fight injustice. It is yet not clear that what would be the outcome of this campaign, but there are rumours that USCIS is already discussing internally to reverse the discriminatory decision which resulted in this flower campaign causing enough embarrassement to them.
Its amazing to witness that 60 years after Gandhi's demise, his ideology is still relevant. We are sure its gonna remain relevant till there are Lord Wavell's in this world. Wavell's can momentarily laugh thinking that unorganized immigrants are helpless, but when the peaceful protest will demonstrate its political power, they surely will realize what Gandhi and Gandhian ways are all about.
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Something similar repeated in United States recently when thousands of legal immigrants were given a cold shoulder, despite of their merit based claim for an American Green Card. They decided to apply Gandhian way of peaceful protest by sending thousands of flower bouquets to USCIS, an American agency responsible for immigration and citizenship. Instead of offering an apology, USCIS chief decided to again ignore the immigrants and simply issued a statement that the flowers will be forwarded to the injured service members recuperating at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Once again a bureaucrat miscalculated the power hidden behind a peaceful protest. Now the power behind flowers is becoming a media mainstream story. NY Times, Washington Post, Reuters, Yahoo News are a few to name. Bollywood, has recently issued a statement providing its full support to Immigration Voice, the non profit organization behind the flower campaign.
An American way of fighting injustice "A law suit" is on its way, the usual rallies and demonstrations are about to begin. However, in America, its first time after Martin Luther King Jr., that someone has tried to apply Gandhi's way to fight injustice. It is yet not clear that what would be the outcome of this campaign, but there are rumours that USCIS is already discussing internally to reverse the discriminatory decision which resulted in this flower campaign causing enough embarrassement to them.
Its amazing to witness that 60 years after Gandhi's demise, his ideology is still relevant. We are sure its gonna remain relevant till there are Lord Wavell's in this world. Wavell's can momentarily laugh thinking that unorganized immigrants are helpless, but when the peaceful protest will demonstrate its political power, they surely will realize what Gandhi and Gandhian ways are all about.
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BECsufferer
05-09 11:53 PM
However, please understand, we are asking for "fair" and "equitable" treatment for those who are already inside the country and devoted sufficient time of their life here. To me this means "justice." I can very well relate to your desperation and anger, but please don't react emotionally. The legal or technical fact remains that no-one guranteed us GC and truth of the matter is most of us said "No" when immigration officer asked " do you have plans to settle in State?" So their is no question of equitable treatment.
... it is possible that EB Indians are targeted by this administration. Infact in good times of this country we have done it a lot of favor instead of our home country. Now is the time to ask for "rights" for our contribution.. No Sir, I can't say thier is conspiracy as I know of none. As of us doing favor? ... is completly wrong, we all knew what and why we are coming here for. Had we had better choice we would have opted for that. Let's be honest to ourselves.
...So is it something that immigration is privilege when they need it and then chuck us out when they dont? Are you upto accepting that we are commodities to be used and thrown when they like? That my friend is captilism and welcome to USA. No I am not going to accept, but I am also not going to wave my fist in air and cry in-justices.
I am sorry to sound rude and know you must be going thru a lot and this news made things worst for you, as they did for all of us. But lets also accept the truth and believe me, things will change .... they will, when? I don't know but they will. Just don't lose hope.
... it is possible that EB Indians are targeted by this administration. Infact in good times of this country we have done it a lot of favor instead of our home country. Now is the time to ask for "rights" for our contribution.. No Sir, I can't say thier is conspiracy as I know of none. As of us doing favor? ... is completly wrong, we all knew what and why we are coming here for. Had we had better choice we would have opted for that. Let's be honest to ourselves.
...So is it something that immigration is privilege when they need it and then chuck us out when they dont? Are you upto accepting that we are commodities to be used and thrown when they like? That my friend is captilism and welcome to USA. No I am not going to accept, but I am also not going to wave my fist in air and cry in-justices.
I am sorry to sound rude and know you must be going thru a lot and this news made things worst for you, as they did for all of us. But lets also accept the truth and believe me, things will change .... they will, when? I don't know but they will. Just don't lose hope.
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jayleno
08-18 01:54 PM
Though I will benifit if the OP's idea succeeds. I agree with eb3_nepa. We need to do something that will help everyone. Its not fair to seek relief to only some section of the community.
I am sorry SunnySurya but this issue DOES concern me. If everyone starts asking the IV core for their time just for their own issues, what about the rest of the community?
If you expect the IV core to dedicate it's time JUST for a particular secction of people, then you need to justify that demand.
In your opinion, EB3 is a LOWLY category as compared to EB2. So it is not enough that Nurses feed from it and just about EVERYONE else feeds from it. To top it off, overflow from eb1 goes FIRST to eb2 and then (and almost NEVER) to eb3. SO Eb2 gets a fair chunk of the greed cards, and over and above that you now want the IV core to further drop everything else and help JUST eb2 out? And who should make this demand? None other than someone who is trying to BREAK the community up into Eb2 vs Eb3.
I am sorry SunnySurya but this issue DOES concern me. If everyone starts asking the IV core for their time just for their own issues, what about the rest of the community?
If you expect the IV core to dedicate it's time JUST for a particular secction of people, then you need to justify that demand.
In your opinion, EB3 is a LOWLY category as compared to EB2. So it is not enough that Nurses feed from it and just about EVERYONE else feeds from it. To top it off, overflow from eb1 goes FIRST to eb2 and then (and almost NEVER) to eb3. SO Eb2 gets a fair chunk of the greed cards, and over and above that you now want the IV core to further drop everything else and help JUST eb2 out? And who should make this demand? None other than someone who is trying to BREAK the community up into Eb2 vs Eb3.
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sundarraj61
11-21 10:43 AM
Sorry to hear this.
To my knowledge,two of my friends,surviving for a long than the the doctor's expectation.
Let us pray god for a cure.
Another thing, green card is not the only solution, there are many other opportunities.
You take care.
God bless you.
-Sundar
To my knowledge,two of my friends,surviving for a long than the the doctor's expectation.
Let us pray god for a cure.
Another thing, green card is not the only solution, there are many other opportunities.
You take care.
God bless you.
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apahilaj
12-16 06:48 PM
Guys, any update on your FP notices? I have written to ombudsman almost 3 weeks ago about not receiving FP notices and nothing yet...
What are you guys thinking as next step?
What are you guys thinking as next step?
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neel_gump
07-21 04:44 PM
We, people with EB3-I priority dates in 2002 2003 2004, should not blame others for our problem. The only way out of this mess for us, I think, is to port from EB3 to EB2. We all need to do it before they scrap that law. We are being too loyal to our original employers. Most of us were working for more than 8 years in the same company. It is time to move-on and search for greener pastures. We checked that there are around 20,000 EB3-I applications in front of us. That, @ 3000 applications per year, means more than 6 years of agonizing wait. We are already waiting for 8 years and I don't know whether we can take 6 more. I think only a mass-porting from EB3 to EB2 should be the answer.
kopguy
07-21 12:41 PM
I do agree severely retrogressed folks do need some concessions and I appreciate guys like Sanhari highlighting this issue. I think we should mobilize the opinion and assert it in a positive way. IV core members have a lot of experience in dealing with the DC system and USCIS let us take advantage of this so that we are not reinventing the wheel.
jaggubhai
08-12 08:45 AM
Same exact sequence of events happened to me. I am sure we will have our cards this week God willingly.
Same set of events for me as well
485: Received CPO email for self and spouse: 8/4/8
485: Received email welcoming new PR: 8/5/8
485: Received email for approval notice sent: 8/8/8
Also
485: Received welcome letter for both: 8/9/8
Still waiting for the cards
Same set of events for me as well
485: Received CPO email for self and spouse: 8/4/8
485: Received email welcoming new PR: 8/5/8
485: Received email for approval notice sent: 8/8/8
Also
485: Received welcome letter for both: 8/9/8
Still waiting for the cards
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