camarasa
07-09 06:06 PM
Guys and gals when you email people and talk to people of the media etc please stress "LEGAL IMMIGRATION". I've been reading a few messages of late that open with "immigration" but only start talking about legal immigration a few paragraphs later. Please stress "LEGAL" everytime you mention the word "immigration". Thanks.
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hydboy77
05-08 04:13 PM
This is nothing but blatant discrimination. There is always a great fight among Americans about affirmative action. Affirmative action is not reservation quota like in India, its about trying to do something to help minorities. There are no fixed quotas in affirmative action. Even for this there is fierce debate.
Now we have to make our case to the American public and politicians. Even if a nominal affirmative action can rile up the whole American society from state and local politics all the way to the Supreme Court how discriminating is it for half of million Indians who are tax paying legal workers to get only 7% of the yearly visas. This is outright discrimination. Maybe the framers of the law did not see this situation coming but thats exactly what happened and we should make our case for the removal of the 7% limit. Only then will American dream triumph. Ignore the ROW people (I am not insulting ROW by saying ignores them) obviously they have a good thing going so they will oppose it, ignore them and highlight our plight. we EB immigrants are not diversity immigrants, we came here on h1b or f1 which has no country limits, when we are hired we were hired based on qualifications not based on country of birth so why discriminate in the EB green card visas which are purely for employment purposes. Let’s devise an action plan which highlights our pitiable situation, for example here is my case
Came to US in 1999,
Graduated with MS degree
Living in US for 10 years now and still nowhere near a green card.
I am not articulate enough to capture our suffering in an essay\letter but we should formalize this and do a campaign like flower campaign or write 100's of thousands of letters and try to get media publicity like during flower campaign to highlight our plight, otherwise nothing will come out of it. I have not seen a single article about the exact reason for the green card delay for Indians. there are only general articles but nothing specific about this 7% limit which is causing this problem. Unless this is exposed Indians will end up in this mess for ever untill we die or are kicked out with endless Employment verification letter, birth certificate rfe etc etc etc.
The EB-2 category for Indian nationals has retrogressed four years and will be set at January 1, 2000 for applications received beginning June 1st. If you are from China, the backlog is five years less - February 15, 2005. And if you are from any other country in the world, there is no wait at all. I am really appalled that Congress allows such an unjust distribution methodology to remain the law. No country is permitted to claim more than 7% of the numbers in a green card category. That means tiny countries like Andorra and Botswana get the same...
More... (http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/2009/05/june-visa-bulletin-reveals-terrible-news-for-eb2-indians.html)
Now we have to make our case to the American public and politicians. Even if a nominal affirmative action can rile up the whole American society from state and local politics all the way to the Supreme Court how discriminating is it for half of million Indians who are tax paying legal workers to get only 7% of the yearly visas. This is outright discrimination. Maybe the framers of the law did not see this situation coming but thats exactly what happened and we should make our case for the removal of the 7% limit. Only then will American dream triumph. Ignore the ROW people (I am not insulting ROW by saying ignores them) obviously they have a good thing going so they will oppose it, ignore them and highlight our plight. we EB immigrants are not diversity immigrants, we came here on h1b or f1 which has no country limits, when we are hired we were hired based on qualifications not based on country of birth so why discriminate in the EB green card visas which are purely for employment purposes. Let’s devise an action plan which highlights our pitiable situation, for example here is my case
Came to US in 1999,
Graduated with MS degree
Living in US for 10 years now and still nowhere near a green card.
I am not articulate enough to capture our suffering in an essay\letter but we should formalize this and do a campaign like flower campaign or write 100's of thousands of letters and try to get media publicity like during flower campaign to highlight our plight, otherwise nothing will come out of it. I have not seen a single article about the exact reason for the green card delay for Indians. there are only general articles but nothing specific about this 7% limit which is causing this problem. Unless this is exposed Indians will end up in this mess for ever untill we die or are kicked out with endless Employment verification letter, birth certificate rfe etc etc etc.
The EB-2 category for Indian nationals has retrogressed four years and will be set at January 1, 2000 for applications received beginning June 1st. If you are from China, the backlog is five years less - February 15, 2005. And if you are from any other country in the world, there is no wait at all. I am really appalled that Congress allows such an unjust distribution methodology to remain the law. No country is permitted to claim more than 7% of the numbers in a green card category. That means tiny countries like Andorra and Botswana get the same...
More... (http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/2009/05/june-visa-bulletin-reveals-terrible-news-for-eb2-indians.html)
h1techSlave
05-01 04:56 PM
Can you add another question in the poll?
Would you be willing to contribute towards this work? (Hiring a lawyer/FOIA request etc.)
Done, added poll.
Would you be willing to contribute towards this work? (Hiring a lawyer/FOIA request etc.)
Done, added poll.
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zoooom
07-19 09:18 PM
I will pledge $100 for this drive
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feedfront
08-26 03:29 PM
Not sure if I got your question... .
I'm seeing lots of folks being greened whose PD is after us. Is it possible that they have PD on their 485 (because I-140 concurrently filed) and so it was picked up by officer? I guess it's not.
In response to infopass officer's request to expedite, I received letter from USCIS (within a week) . It shows my receipt# correct but shows filing date 10/10/2007. Actually, this is receipt date of case transfer to TSC from NSC.
I'm seeing lots of folks being greened whose PD is after us. Is it possible that they have PD on their 485 (because I-140 concurrently filed) and so it was picked up by officer? I guess it's not.
In response to infopass officer's request to expedite, I received letter from USCIS (within a week) . It shows my receipt# correct but shows filing date 10/10/2007. Actually, this is receipt date of case transfer to TSC from NSC.
nepaliboy
05-21 06:06 PM
Hi,
Why did you have to pay $25? Is it for any official fees? Did you get a receipt for that 25$?
Just curious.
GCCovet
because my appointment date is may 28th , he asked if i will pay for him he will do that today so i did
Why did you have to pay $25? Is it for any official fees? Did you get a receipt for that 25$?
Just curious.
GCCovet
because my appointment date is may 28th , he asked if i will pay for him he will do that today so i did
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wait_2010
02-25 01:06 PM
Cannot make it to DC..Contributed $100 with tran ID 0941-3918-8124-2866..Thanks to all who are going there..
Reaching out to friends to get more contributions
Gud luck to us all
Additionally , I saw a post about "5 reasons to not contribute" that was a gud one. I will bump that one up ...I am surprised that we cant get a 1000 people to contribute some money..An avg of $50 will get us beyond $50,000 (Obviously we dont need even 1000 people because many will contribute 100 or more) ..There just too many leaches who wait for others to do thier job..
Reaching out to friends to get more contributions
Gud luck to us all
Additionally , I saw a post about "5 reasons to not contribute" that was a gud one. I will bump that one up ...I am surprised that we cant get a 1000 people to contribute some money..An avg of $50 will get us beyond $50,000 (Obviously we dont need even 1000 people because many will contribute 100 or more) ..There just too many leaches who wait for others to do thier job..
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11-19 02:04 PM
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kondur_007
07-28 12:50 PM
It is indeed sad that you continue to pontificate from a perch of indifference and ignorance.
From your knowledge of words it sounds to me that you should get a "PhD" in language or politics or something like that and apply for EB1...Why are you doing EB3???
If we were to buy this weak attempt at making a 'logical point', I would be glad to give Ron a call and have his folks look into YOUR respective EB2 applications and find out if there REALLY was "NO" qualified US worker available for that job. Want to play that game?
Look, the EB system is what it is. Instead of trying to bait others into silence by suddenly finding 'fairness in this system', only because this part of the puzzle narrowly goes to serve / protect your gains ... try to come together to fix the underlying weakness in the system.
For the record, I am not bitter about a 7+ year 'wait'. On the contrary, I have grown professionally thanks to the opportunity to focus my energies towards building a Billion dollar corporation. That said, I would LOVE to see the paperwork of EB2 Java 'gurus' and L1 converts stand up to true scrutiny ... and that would open a whole new can of worms. Game?
Keep in mind, here you are challenging the entire system...you are challenging DOL, DOS and USCIS integrity...
I do not like to annoy anyone ever, but your posts are so annoying that I could not resist. Forgive me if I offended you.
An honest advise: (and please do not take me wrong): you mentioned earlier that you have qualification for EB2. If I were you, I would definitely pursue the conversion from EB3 to EB2 before it gets even tougher to do so. And this is not jost for you or even EB3, this applies to EB2 as well. Every EB2 should try to get EB1. Going higher up in hierarchy is only beneficial.
From your knowledge of words it sounds to me that you should get a "PhD" in language or politics or something like that and apply for EB1...Why are you doing EB3???
If we were to buy this weak attempt at making a 'logical point', I would be glad to give Ron a call and have his folks look into YOUR respective EB2 applications and find out if there REALLY was "NO" qualified US worker available for that job. Want to play that game?
Look, the EB system is what it is. Instead of trying to bait others into silence by suddenly finding 'fairness in this system', only because this part of the puzzle narrowly goes to serve / protect your gains ... try to come together to fix the underlying weakness in the system.
For the record, I am not bitter about a 7+ year 'wait'. On the contrary, I have grown professionally thanks to the opportunity to focus my energies towards building a Billion dollar corporation. That said, I would LOVE to see the paperwork of EB2 Java 'gurus' and L1 converts stand up to true scrutiny ... and that would open a whole new can of worms. Game?
Keep in mind, here you are challenging the entire system...you are challenging DOL, DOS and USCIS integrity...
I do not like to annoy anyone ever, but your posts are so annoying that I could not resist. Forgive me if I offended you.
An honest advise: (and please do not take me wrong): you mentioned earlier that you have qualification for EB2. If I were you, I would definitely pursue the conversion from EB3 to EB2 before it gets even tougher to do so. And this is not jost for you or even EB3, this applies to EB2 as well. Every EB2 should try to get EB1. Going higher up in hierarchy is only beneficial.
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11-17 09:12 PM
Done. Thanks. Sent emails to all my friends!
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Santosh_gc
06-26 10:26 AM
Its not about stereotyping...its about being fair....how can people who have come here illegally be allowed a path to naturalization while we have been waiting in line for so long? I came here because I had a certain idea about the makeup and composition and ideology of this country (liberty, equality, etc.) Making such a move will invariably change the demographic of the nation. Now that would be an intentional act. Not the natural pace at which migration/assimilation and diversification occurs. I have nothing against that.
Would somebody call you racist if you say that you dont want to move to a ghetto because the standard of living is not good? NO. The fact that you dont want to move to a ghetto does not mean that you are prejudiced about the people who live there.
The statement about corruption and inefficiencies is not slander but just a simple observation. If you dont agree with that, then most likely you would prefere to live in/immigrate to some Latin country instead of being here/coming to USA.
I wont open the argument about the burden the illegal people will put on welfare etc. considering that they are typically from a income bracket that does not contribute much to taxes.
It is very easy for people to use a cliched terms like racist/bigots etc when arguing for amnesty but if racism was the core argument against amnesty, one would not see the kind of backlash that one is seeing from the masses after CIR was introduced.
All Americans think it is unfair to reward behaviour that is against the law. Not to mention the fact that they will have to take the burden of welfare of the legalized illegal people while they themselves dont know if there will be any welfare/social security benefits available when they are ready to retire.
If you calling someone racist, please explain why you are saying so.
Santosh
Would somebody call you racist if you say that you dont want to move to a ghetto because the standard of living is not good? NO. The fact that you dont want to move to a ghetto does not mean that you are prejudiced about the people who live there.
The statement about corruption and inefficiencies is not slander but just a simple observation. If you dont agree with that, then most likely you would prefere to live in/immigrate to some Latin country instead of being here/coming to USA.
I wont open the argument about the burden the illegal people will put on welfare etc. considering that they are typically from a income bracket that does not contribute much to taxes.
It is very easy for people to use a cliched terms like racist/bigots etc when arguing for amnesty but if racism was the core argument against amnesty, one would not see the kind of backlash that one is seeing from the masses after CIR was introduced.
All Americans think it is unfair to reward behaviour that is against the law. Not to mention the fact that they will have to take the burden of welfare of the legalized illegal people while they themselves dont know if there will be any welfare/social security benefits available when they are ready to retire.
If you calling someone racist, please explain why you are saying so.
Santosh
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cooldude
09-30 11:09 PM
I have started a thread on July 19 Filers Tracking. PLease update your information there and let's track it.
Lets hope we get our receipts soon.
Keep faith.
Lets hope we get our receipts soon.
Keep faith.
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09-09 08:27 PM
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nk2006
05-02 11:37 AM
Where is the relief for foreign educated professional who is filed under EB3.
They seem to exempt only for extraordinary ability ppl.
Section 201 item two says exemption for all advanced degree holder who worked in US for atleast 3 years in a "related" field. I know there might be issues with definition of "related" but seems job can be EB2/EB3 as long as the beneficiary has an advanced degree and the job is in related field - they are exempt. Am I reading it correctly? I think is how its in STEM right now. A very good back bill for us (if CIR fails to materialize).
They seem to exempt only for extraordinary ability ppl.
Section 201 item two says exemption for all advanced degree holder who worked in US for atleast 3 years in a "related" field. I know there might be issues with definition of "related" but seems job can be EB2/EB3 as long as the beneficiary has an advanced degree and the job is in related field - they are exempt. Am I reading it correctly? I think is how its in STEM right now. A very good back bill for us (if CIR fails to materialize).
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desi3933
07-10 12:44 PM
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6. Again, Permanent job is a job that is expected to last unknown term and is not defined for a period.
Can you point us to a USCIS/DOL resource to confirm that definition of "permanent "job?
Permanent means job that is for for a term of indefinite or unlimited duration.
http://www.uscis.gov/err/B3%20-%20Outstanding%20Professors%20and%20Researchers/Decisions_Issued_in_2004/MAR232004_01B3203.pdf
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H-1B job is not permanent since they have end date specified by LCA and H-1B visa petition.
If *no* H1B job is "permanent," as you say, then how can that job be permanent after filing PERM or I-140? Second, following your argument, if you're on H-1B and changed employers using AC21, the new job wouldn't be considered "permanent," right? Third, if H-1B job is not "permanent," then which one is?
AC-21 is not just for changing GC employer.
AC-21 is for
1. H-1B portability - starting new H1-B immediately after filing opf new petition
2. Extension of H-1B beyond 6 years - if labor is pending > 365 days or I-140 is approved/pending. Since each H-1B petition is linked to LCA and LCA is for temp job, each H1 petition is a new or extension of temp job.
3. Changing of GC employer - Please note that you can change your GC employer even without changing job, just by getting job offer from new employer, as GC job is for job starting after I-485 approval.
Do not confuse existing H-1B job with future GC job.
H-1B is linked to LCA (Temp Job) (http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/h-1b.cfm) Note: The link clearly says
The H-1B program allows an employer to temporarily employ a foreign worker in the U.S. on a nonimmigrant basis in a specialty occupation or as a fashion model of distinguished merit and ability.
On the other hand, I-140 is linked to Permanent Labor Certification (http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/perm.cfm) (aka GC labor)
6. Again, Permanent job is a job that is expected to last unknown term and is not defined for a period.
Can you point us to a USCIS/DOL resource to confirm that definition of "permanent "job?
Permanent means job that is for for a term of indefinite or unlimited duration.
http://www.uscis.gov/err/B3%20-%20Outstanding%20Professors%20and%20Researchers/Decisions_Issued_in_2004/MAR232004_01B3203.pdf
.....
H-1B job is not permanent since they have end date specified by LCA and H-1B visa petition.
If *no* H1B job is "permanent," as you say, then how can that job be permanent after filing PERM or I-140? Second, following your argument, if you're on H-1B and changed employers using AC21, the new job wouldn't be considered "permanent," right? Third, if H-1B job is not "permanent," then which one is?
AC-21 is not just for changing GC employer.
AC-21 is for
1. H-1B portability - starting new H1-B immediately after filing opf new petition
2. Extension of H-1B beyond 6 years - if labor is pending > 365 days or I-140 is approved/pending. Since each H-1B petition is linked to LCA and LCA is for temp job, each H1 petition is a new or extension of temp job.
3. Changing of GC employer - Please note that you can change your GC employer even without changing job, just by getting job offer from new employer, as GC job is for job starting after I-485 approval.
Do not confuse existing H-1B job with future GC job.
H-1B is linked to LCA (Temp Job) (http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/h-1b.cfm) Note: The link clearly says
The H-1B program allows an employer to temporarily employ a foreign worker in the U.S. on a nonimmigrant basis in a specialty occupation or as a fashion model of distinguished merit and ability.
On the other hand, I-140 is linked to Permanent Labor Certification (http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/perm.cfm) (aka GC labor)
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joshraj
10-03 04:50 PM
Anyone with filing date on July 27, post on http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=14095
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sanju
10-09 11:46 AM
how about based on salary?
everybody maximize their own utility.
How about deciding the position in the queue based on the utility bill. If you consume more energy/utilities/sewage, you are creating jobs for the guys at the local water treatment plant, sub-station or power generating station, who then go to local eating joint to create more jobs/business, who buy stuff from farmers, who ........
This thread is like pig shit, it occupies lot of space and throws out too much ....
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everybody maximize their own utility.
How about deciding the position in the queue based on the utility bill. If you consume more energy/utilities/sewage, you are creating jobs for the guys at the local water treatment plant, sub-station or power generating station, who then go to local eating joint to create more jobs/business, who buy stuff from farmers, who ........
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qasleuth
02-12 03:52 PM
So both you and the other guy "qasleuth" have decided not to present any real reasons or arguments to support why I should not advise people to be ethically and morally responsible, but instead go after me to prove that I am somehow also morally corrupt like you guys are.
You want to bring in refugees from Siberia or where ever into this discussion just to dilute the real topic of the thread. You are no better than any politician for that matter.
That "qasleuth" has also not answered my question as to where and when I claimed that I am trying to pretend I have better standards than the next person on this forum or anywhere.
Since the two of you don't have answers to these questions of mine, I rest my case until that!
You have reading comprehension issues as well...if you get over yourself then you can comprehend things (let me be clear, I am referring here to my own posts and none of the other ones). You made your point on page 2 about the moral/ethical/legal perils of what the OP has done/proposing to do. You were fine with me. Continuously pointing out at other people as to how morally bankrupt they are (including your latest post) or how bad there comm skills are (written or otherwise) will certainly expose you to shots from others (like me). When you continuously point out others' morals then the presumption here is that you are squeaky clean. I pointed out, you are not. That is all. It does not mean, OPs post is morally/ethically/legally on the right side or I hold that opinion (actually I do not).
You want to bring in refugees from Siberia or where ever into this discussion just to dilute the real topic of the thread. You are no better than any politician for that matter.
That "qasleuth" has also not answered my question as to where and when I claimed that I am trying to pretend I have better standards than the next person on this forum or anywhere.
Since the two of you don't have answers to these questions of mine, I rest my case until that!
You have reading comprehension issues as well...if you get over yourself then you can comprehend things (let me be clear, I am referring here to my own posts and none of the other ones). You made your point on page 2 about the moral/ethical/legal perils of what the OP has done/proposing to do. You were fine with me. Continuously pointing out at other people as to how morally bankrupt they are (including your latest post) or how bad there comm skills are (written or otherwise) will certainly expose you to shots from others (like me). When you continuously point out others' morals then the presumption here is that you are squeaky clean. I pointed out, you are not. That is all. It does not mean, OPs post is morally/ethically/legally on the right side or I hold that opinion (actually I do not).
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Libra
07-06 10:38 PM
WOW!! I really feel good and proud to be a member of IV, many members(even seniors) should learn from you guys, instead of critisizing whatever others do, come up with good ideas.
diptam
06-27 10:33 AM
May end i had 11 day bench but they paid in full... They are good in some aspects that's why i stayed with them for 2.5 yrs....
But signing a binding contract for an indeterminate period ( I yr after GC)
is making me worried !!
If you are consulting and not getting bench period salary, try to be out of project for some time and ask him to pay for that period. According to H1B he supposed to pay the salary. Probably at that point he has to let you go.
But signing a binding contract for an indeterminate period ( I yr after GC)
is making me worried !!
If you are consulting and not getting bench period salary, try to be out of project for some time and ask him to pay for that period. According to H1B he supposed to pay the salary. Probably at that point he has to let you go.
abracadabra
07-07 02:34 PM
Is it happening today?? There is no media coverage
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